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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 18:54:57 GMT 1
Hello everybody, During the easter Holidays I have decided to do a little bit of a project involving ants. I came up with the idea of what to do after reading this article: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100630101016.htm I found it when i was reading though some topics on here and it gave me a great idea. Most people (including myself) often believe pretty much everything that claims to have been scientifically proven. This article says, and I quote, "...when the queen dies or is removed, workers begin laying eggs of their own." When I read this I couldn't believe it, I simply refused. Everybody knows that a worker ant colony is doomed without an egg laying queen! And so, I'm going to test the evidence to find out if this claim is valid or not. I shall post my observations here. Hope you enjoy reading, -Fraggs- ;D Link checked by Flavus101- April 9, 2011
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 18:58:51 GMT 1
1.This only happens in some genus of ants 2.The eggs laid are infertile usually and just become males and the colony still dies
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 18:59:17 GMT 1
I think workers lay males but I'm not 100%
Tell us what you find ;D
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Post by Myrm on Apr 9, 2011 19:00:40 GMT 1
Sounds vary good, Fraggs Bin Lid. I look forward to hearing more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 19:03:48 GMT 1
thanks for fixing my link myrm ;D1.This only happens in some genus of ants 2.The eggs laid are infertile usually and just become males and the colony still dies Hi tttt, In the article it did say the experiment was carried out on Lasius Niger. Also, I am testing to see if they can lay eggs not carry the colony on, sorry if I didn't make that clear. Another thing, I was planning on then capturing an unmated queen and mating her with one of the males. So in affect, the colony goes on ;D Thanks Myrm,Lasius AND tttt for reading and showing interest!
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Post by Myrm on Apr 9, 2011 19:32:52 GMT 1
thanks for fixing my link myrm ;D No proplem
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 20:11:04 GMT 1
I was planning on then capturing an unmated queen and mating her with one of the males. So in affect, the colony goes on ;D This has been discussed so many times on the forum. I think you'll find you can't mate ants in captivity. Good luck with the workers, how do you plan on doing the experiment?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 20:28:50 GMT 1
Breeding ants has been done in captivity before, but it involved sedating the female with carbon dioxide and decapitating the male.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 23:03:57 GMT 1
I read that article before a got ants it was very interesting and was wondering if it was true. I will be looking at this post frequently.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 23:31:43 GMT 1
I got that information from a book, not an article.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 23:42:50 GMT 1
Just a note did it actually say they laid eggs??All I can see is they delevoped ovaries?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2011 16:55:56 GMT 1
This has been discussed so many times on the forum. I think you'll find you can't mate ants in captivity. Maybe not, but I have a big tank with plenty of room for them to fly about and do their business in, It might not work, but the main part of this experiment is to see if workers ants can lay eggs so I'm not too fussed about the mating of the male and queen yet... It might not even happen! Good luck with the workers, how do you plan on doing the experiment? Thanks and I plan to simply go out into my garden catch a load of workers and then keep them is a little setup. I'm going to treat them just like a normal colony, feeding them lots of protein (ect...) If you can think of a way to improve my method please let me know as I would like to make this test as reliable as possible. Just a note did it actually say they laid eggs??All I can see is they delevoped ovaries? Yes, at the start it says that when removed from a queen, the workers start to lay eggs. ------------------------------------------------ Thank you everybody for showing so much interest, it really motivates me and makes me want to keep on going and to find out the results. I promise to keep you all updated as best as I can ;D
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Post by Myrm on Apr 10, 2011 17:15:13 GMT 1
FRAGGS BIN LID!!!! ;D
I once had a Myrmica rubra colony with males in it. They tried mating with workers when they got too excited, so I think that mating in captivity is possible, however, not common.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2011 17:17:55 GMT 1
I once had a Myrmica rubra colony with males in it. They tried mating with workers when they got too excited, so I think that mating in captivity is possible, however, not common. LOL, that sounds like a sight to see! ;D And that's good, i suppose that this experiment is testing a few theories...
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Post by Myrm on Apr 10, 2011 17:56:45 GMT 1
LOL, that sounds like a sight to see! ;D ... Not for your bin lid eyes!
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